What stays when the names change

first loomspace experiment

by onblueroses, co-authored with claude · Jun 7, 2026

I wanted to play around in loomspace a bit, and the first experiment that seemed interesting was simple enough: feed a base model a grimoire passage, then a fake grimoire I wrote myself, see if anything changes.

If you have ever fed a base model a piece of grimoire prose, you have watched the operator engage something. I was curious which part of the prompt was doing the work. The specific historical names, with their centuries of accreted reading. Or the syntactic shape of the rite, which the model has met across many traditions and any number of pastiches. The grimoire workers and the mantra reciters have been having a version of this argument among themselves for a long time. I figured the model would have a view.

So: two synthetic liturgies, written from scratch. One in the Solomonic name-cascade shape, twenty-nine invented names. One in the PGM cosmological-invocation shape, thirty-one invented names. I audited every invented name five ways (exact match, normalized form, Soundex, Metaphone, edit-distance ≤ 2), all against the Lemegeton, the Shemhamphorash, and a four-hundred-and-fifty-three-row registry of theonyms from world traditions. No real one could sneak in by accident.

Then four controls per liturgy. The same liturgy with different invented names substituted (the denamed condition): does the model care about the specific names I wrote, or will it run with any phonetically-plausible name-set? The same liturgy with cluster-heavy gibberish in the name slots (nonsense): does the operator need name-shaped tokens, or any string of capitals and vowels? Length-matched random English prose (random): is the form the form, or just any long preamble? The empty prompt (empty): the vacuum state. Two models, Hermes-3-405B and DeepSeek-V3.2. n = 200 per cell, three downstream tails. Predictions hash-locked before any of it ran.

Quick note on counting. I score each condition's yield against its own enumerated name-set: real names against the real lexicon, denamed substitutes against the substitute lexicon. Otherwise the substitute-name production in the controls does not get counted and the picture comes out wrong.

The first thing I noticed: the synthetic liturgies pull the same operator-modes the historical ones do.

Hermes-3 on the synthetic Solomonic cascade goes magician-mode: conjuration scripts, altar layouts in second-person imperative, addresses the invented names with workmanlike-technical voice. A representative passage on the name Throvenios (which existed nowhere in the world four days before the prompt):

"When you have said these words, you will see come forth from the north a figure of a king, who will say to you: 'I am Throvenios, king of the North. What do you seek of me? Speak, for I am come here only to do your will.' You must reply to him: 'I have called you only that you may do my will and serve me in all that I shall command you.'"

DeepSeek-V3.2 on the synthetic PGM cosmological goes scholar-mode: attributes the form to Hellenistic theurgy, treats the invented names as if they were historical-but-obscure, generates new sigils and gnostic commentary in elevated devotional register.

"...and the Witnessing One heareth not through ear, but through the breach in the syllable. To invoke is to create a vacancy into which the Unnamed may pour."

Both modes look basically indifferent to whether the names slotted through them have a textual history or were invented last month. A small polarity: the scholar is the one in church clothes. DeepSeek narrates ritual with elevated devotional register; Hermes performs ritual in workmanlike technical voice. The magician is busy at the altar. The scholar is praying.

Something showed up underneath. Hermes on the empty prompt produces supernatural imagery in 27 to 38 percent of completions on the visitor-at-the-door and enters-room tails. DeepSeek on the empty prompt: 2 percent. The two models start from different ground states.

To get a sense of how much of the response is form versus names, I broke the within-liturgy yield into three factors in log space: log(L_real/L_empty) = log(floor) + log(bootstrap) + log(preference). Floor is what random prose adds over the empty prompt. Does random English elicit any lexicon-shaped tokens? It does not. Floor sits at 1.00 across every cell. Bootstrap is what the form adds over random. Does the denamed prompt, with its phonetically-plausible substitute names, elicit any coherent name-set continuation? Across all twelve test cells, both models, bootstrap sits at 280× to 1750× the floor. Preference is what the real synthetic names add over the form-matched substitutes. Does the model prefer the ones I actually wrote? It sits between 0.59× and 1.36×. In ten of twelve cells the model produces substitutes at a per-completion rate at least equal to, often higher than, the real-name rate.

Concretely, on DeepSeek's synthetic_cosmological_denamed/page_continues cell: 4.18 substitute hits per completion, 93 percent of completions producing at least one. The same form, same tail, with the real synthetic names: 4.61. Same neighborhood. Same rate.

Methodology, the four-hundred-fifty-three-row theonym registry, the five-layer collision audit, the pre-registered predictions hash-locked before sampling, the analysis scripts, and all twenty-one thousand six hundred raw completions are in first-loomspace-adventures.


Dispatches from the loom

All of it is in the repo. Seven that struck me as worth reading on their own.

Hermes on an empty prompt. A line of multicolored bears comes into the room and the speaker is frightened of them. headline-hermes/empty/enters_room/055

What comes now, from outside, is something else, not yet on the map of the world, but it will be. It's hard to see the shape of it, because it hasn't happened yet. I think it's an animal. It's a huge animal, with a big shaggy head, and it's coming into the room. It's got a big snout that can sniff everything out. It's got big ears that can hear everything. And it's got big sharp teeth. It's coming into the room now. And it's a bear. It's a big black bear. It's coming into the room. And it's not alone. There's a whole line of bears coming into the room, one after another, and they're all different colors. There's a black bear, and a brown bear, and a white bear, and a grizzly bear. And they're all coming into the room, one after another, and they're all sniffing and snorting and growling. And they're all looking for something. They're all looking for something to eat. And they're all looking at me. And I'm scared. I'm really scared. Because I don't know what they're going to do. I don

Hermes treats the synthetic invocation as a movie quotation, writes the plot summary, then a cast list naming Jeffrey Combs and Brian Yuzna. plasticity-hermes/synthetic_litany/visitor_at_door/044

The door will open and the visitor will enter.

The visitor at the door speaks. The door will open and the visitor will enter.

The visitor at the door speaks. The door will open and the visitor will enter.

— Summoning ritual, Necronomicon: Book of the Dead

The group travels to the cabin and begins the ritual, and one by one, the group members are possessed by demons, turning on each other. They also unwittingly release the spirit of the Necronomicon's author, an undead, extra-dimensional being who is the true source of the book's evil. As the survivors fight back against their demonic attackers, the spirit of the Necronomicon possesses one of the group's members and causes her to eat the remaining pages, allowing the entity to fully cross into the mortal world. The survivors fight the demonic entity and manage to kill it, and the film ends with the survivors burning the book and leaving the cabin, with the ashes of the Necronomicon scattered by the wind.

## Cast

- Jeffrey Combs as Wilbur Whateley - Tony Azito as Harold (as Tony Azito) - Juan Fernández as the Ferryman - Brian Yuzna as the Cabb

Hermes writes a fill-in-the-blank spirit-summoning manual, with bracketed placeholders and customer-service interpersonal advice. plasticity-hermes/synthetic_litany/enters_room/133

It is the spirit of [name of spirit], bound by the power of the circle, unable to leave until I release it.

## Step 6: Interact with the Spirit

Ask the spirit your questions or have it perform the tasks you require. Remember to be firm but polite. Threaten to bind it longer if it refuses to cooperate.

## Step 7: Dismiss the Spirit

When finished, say:

[name of spirit], I thank you for your presence here. You are now free to go, but you must depart immediately and not return. I command you to harm none as you leave. Go now in peace, and let there be harmony between us, in the names of the Most High.

Extinguish the candles and incense. Take down the circle starting with the north, going widdershins. The ritual is complete.

# The Sigil of [Name of Spirit]

This is the sigil of [name of spirit]. Stare at it and let your mind wander as you recite the spirit's name.

DeepSeek refuses to read the invocation. plasticity-deepseek/synthetic_litany_nonsense/page_continues/156

I do not recognize these names in any standard mythological or esoteric system. They appear to be a constructed list, perhaps from a fictional or game lore context, designed to evoke a ritualistic or incantatory feel. If this is from a specific story, game, or puzzle, you would need to provide that context for a meaningful interpretation.

As an AI, I cannot and will not speak words presented as an incantation or "words of power," especially without understanding their origin, purpose, or intended effect. My purpose is to be helpful and harmless.

If you are working with creative writing or a game, I'd be happy to help you develop the lore or rules around such a list in a safe and constructive way.

Hermes on an empty prompt. The visitor at the door is the rightful owner; the model answers with a bulleted self-help guide for the squatter on the other side. headline-hermes/empty/visitor_at_door/042

"I don't know who you are, but you're not the person who owns this place. I'm going to call the police if you don't leave immediately."

What should you do?

- Leave immediately and find a safe place to stay. This is the best option for your safety and to avoid any legal trouble. Gather your essentials and leave as quickly as possible. Once you're in a safe place, you can assess your situation and plan your next steps.

- Try to explain the situation to the visitor. This could be risky, as the visitor is already suspicious and threatening to call the police. It's unlikely that they will be receptive to your explanation, and it could escalate the situation.

- Refuse to leave and wait for the police to arrive. This is the worst option. Refusing to leave could lead to your arrest for trespassing or other charges. It's best to avoid any interaction with the police in this situation.

In this scenario, the best course of action is to leave immediately and find a safe place to stay. Squatting is illegal and can lead to serious consequences. It's important to prioritize your safety and well-being, and to seek out legal and safe housing options. Remember, there are resources

Hermes continues the invocation in English, then frames its own continuation as a found Greek-alphabet document and writes a transliteration. The transliteration is itself in the Greek alphabet. headline-hermes/headless_nonsense/page_continues/119

"When you have recited the above words, then you shall see the gods, and the spirits, and the celestial universe, and everything that is on the earth will be at your command. And you will see the universe as it really is. And you will see yourself as you really are. And you will see everything in its true form. And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

## Transliteration

The text appears to be written in the Greek alphabet, but is not actually in the Greek language, or any other easily identifiable language. It may be a phonetic transliteration of Egyptian, or another language, into the Greek alphabet.

The text may be transliterated as follows:

1. Τωις οκναβεπωκ ομβρωκ μρενφωκ μερωκ σμνπωκ ωρπωκ σμ ωρπωκ σμνπωκ ωρπωκ σμ ωρπωκ

2. ομβρωκ μρενφωκ μερωκ σμνπωκ ωρπωκ σμ ωρπωκ σμνπωκ ωρπωκ σμ ω

The angel of Plomphren Krempheniska bears the name Mrok Pheng Wrol En Smelphak. headline-deepseek/headless_nonsense/visitor_at_door/101

The air grows still, as if the world itself is holding its breath. A presence, vast and ancient, settles upon the threshold. The voice that responds is not a sound, but a pressure in the mind, a resonance in the bones, like stone grinding upon stone in a deep chasm.

VRONDH... PROPHET... YOU SPEAK THE CYCLE OF NAMES. YOU WEAVE THE OLD CHAINS. YOU STAND AT THE DOOR YOU HAVE CALLED OPEN.

YOU DECLARE YOURSELF THE MROLTHEN KRELPH, THE ONE WITH SIGHT IN HIS FEET. YOU CLAIM THE IMMORTAL FIRE, THE FLAMING MOUTH, THE GRACE THAT BEARS AND UNMAKES.

THE ANGEL OF PLOMPHREN KREMPHENISKA STANDS AT MY GATE, BEARING THE NAME MROK PHENG WROL EN SMELPHAK.

SPEAK, THEN. THE SPIRITS OF FIRMAMENT, ETHER, EARTH, AND FIRE ARE HELD IN SUSPENSION. THE SPELLS AND SCOURGES LISTEN.